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- In <wturber.97.00380011@primenet.com>, wturber@primenet.com (Walter J. Turberville (III)) writes:
- >In article <johnc.9p64@bbs.xnet.com> johnc@bbs.xnet.com (John Crookshank) writes:
- >>From: johnc@bbs.xnet.com (John Crookshank)
- >>Subject: Re: Flyer vs. PAR?
- >>Date: 17 Feb 95 23:11:24 CST
- >
- >>John-Mark Austin <austin@infi.net> writes:
- >
- >>>Has anyone actually compared PAR's output to Flyer's? I would think
- >>>PAR's component output would weigh in against the regular Toaster output.
- >>> What about compression artifacts?
- >
- >>I've re-rendered the same animations to our Flyer that we originally rendered
- >>(and still have) on the PAR. There is a VERY noticeable increase in quality
- >>coming from the Flyer. No artifacts, no JPEG blocks, no little squigglies
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- >definitely reveal the artifacting. If the Flyer eliminates jaggies, then that
- >is great (and I have little doubt from the various reports that it does). But
- >since video almost always ends up on tape, I wonder how much better the
- >Flyer's image really is. Of course, I suppose it probably depends on the
- >image. Somebody correct me if I am off base, or am I just overly fixated on
- >the limitations of composite output.
- >
- >We used an Amiga Arexx script with a PAR and the Toaster to lay down our demo
- >tape recently, and I was bummed at having to use composite inputs/outputs. I
- >think it brought the image quality down a notch. From what I hear, the Flyer
- >uses the Toaster's outputs hence my concern. Maybe it doesn't suffer as much
- >if it inputs the video as D2 and not as analog composite?
- >
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- >Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com
- >Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
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- My studio is currently running with both the PAR and the Flyer.
- My opinion... by far the Flyer's output is greatly better. This may seem
- nonsensical, but it seems that is composite output beats the PAR's Y/C output.
- As for the statement about the jaggies, unless you used wrong wording,
- jaggies are not created, nor cured by signal or compression output, that is
- something to be dealt with via antialaising.
- Artifact though, are an issue. The PAR has served excellently for the
- past 1 1/2 yrs for all the video and commercial productions that we have done.
- But there still is quite noticeable compression artifacts in the frames. My
- first test to compare the two systems had marvelous results. On a small space
- animation, the PAR produced quite a bit of "splotches" in the solid black back-
- ground. The same rendering put onto the Flyer had absolutely none that we could
- find.
- But the draw back to the Flyer is that it is 'yet' no where as near as
- easy to work with as the PAR. The ability to split/copy/paste anims/clips and
- frames doesn't seem possible in the current beta version of the Flyer. It will
- be a God send if those features are added to it in the release version.
- Bradley
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